Government is seriously contemplating outsourcing some of its healthcare obligations to the private sector.
So says Minister in the Ministry of Finance and Member of Parliament for Christ Church East Central Ryan Straughn as he addressed constituents at a Barbados Labour Party (BLP) branch meeting at the Milton Lynch Primary School on Sunday.
According to Straughn, Government was working to improve the quality of services offered to taxpayers even in the face of the $67 million in much needed improvements for the state-run Queen Elizabeth Hospital (QEH). However, he said while engaging the private sector may not appear to be the most desirable option, it could significantly ease the burden on Government and immediately improve the standard of healthcare services offered to Barbadians.
“Sometimes it may not be such a bad idea to approach the private sector, because it may be cheaper for Government . . . . This may also mean that what you are accustomed to doing, going to the hospital and waiting two hours, three hours or six hours could come to an end. Sometimes you wait a whole day and you still don’t get what you need. It means making slight changes and perhaps going to an offsite facility and getting access,” said Straughn, who did not name a specific private sector facility which could shoulder some of the burden currently being carried by the QEH.
Last week, QEH Chairman Juliet Bynoe-Sutherland alluded to pending layoffs as she admitted the hospital would soon undergo “a very systematic exercise looking critically at the staffing levels of the hospital”.
“We do anticipate that there will be give-and-take increases and contraction in some areas and we are going to do so in a responsible way,” she said.
She too agreed that the hospital’s current structure was in need of an overhaul and briefly mentioned the possibility of public-private partnerships.
At the branch meeting, Straughn indicated that any burden from such private sector partnerships would be financed in the same way the QEH is currently financed.
“We are trying to make sure that when you work hard and pay your taxes, you actually get the kind of service and the kind of public good that you are paying for. That is very important and part of the conversation that we need to have going forward is precisely how we are going to access those services.
“What is the nature of the working relationship? Does it concern you whether the person doing the x-ray is an employee of the QEH or not? You want to know that when you go, it’s a service you can get, and when you show up, it’s going to be done and you don’t have to wait another three or six months. You want to know that you are going to get the service, so it means that it’s the responsibility of Government and certainly the QEH to make sure that if there’s a deficiency, that we can fix the deficiency so that you the citizen can turn up and get the type of service that you want and expect,” said Straughn.
Of the QEH’s gigantic refurbishment bill and the need to have the hospital working efficiently, he said: “You simply can’t do all at one time, because there simply isn’t enough money to do that, so what it may mean for some things, for a period of time, there may be an arrangement where you go to some external facility to get the service, because if it isn’t working at the QEH, then you have to access the service elsewhere, the Government pays for it.”
What is going on here
I’m saddened for his mother
Why was a teen carrying a gun? He is not license to carry! If Barbadians truly want guns off the street, ask that question!
One less punk off the streets
Before you make a judgment get all the facts. And how does people know that he was a punk.
Live by the sword ….Die by the sword ….let this be a lesson …
Richard, I was going to type that…..the police are doing their job, I have no sympathy for the teenager.
Rough life. Stay away from trouble and these things would not happen.that is all i can say. I do not know the real facts. But i know trouble has no big pay day.
The youths that born in 2000 all dying out or go n to jail
Another Scumbag gone to Boot hill at an early age
Wunna hear not bout hey, wunna gine dead, Hard ears wunna won’t hear wunna gine dead
Same old lamentation
Same old lamentation
Never mash an ant yet they now say i am sure from those who never set an example
What does the person in the article mean “they shouldn’t have done him so”? The police responded as they should when under attack by gun fire! The police is charged to protect the community as well as themselves, so how this could be the police fault?! What was this young man doing with a firearm, and most likely illegal?? I’m really sorry that it ended like this for him and my condolences go out to his family and friends, but, young people should think very carefully about their actions! Our police have made a pledge to bring this criminal climate of gun and drug culture to an end and we all should support them!!!
I agree with you 100%. He and another young man were reported as having firearms and a loaded firearm was recovered from the scene after he fell. I am sorry for his family and close friends and that he has died at such a tender age. If other young men and women involved in crime would see this and change their lives then his death would not have been for nothing.
Live by the sword, die by the sword. One who uses violence can expect a violent response.
Today’s generation have no sense of reasoning, no thought before carrying out their deed or making positive choices whatsoever about time they realise it is better to try to use peaceful means wherever possible.
Words of some residents “the young man was not known to be a troublemaker” but he had a GUN and was SHOOTING at police.
Similar words was said about the youngster who was shot by police a few Sundays ago. He too had a GUN.
A lot of those residents always try to cover up for the wrong doers in their district. Even when the outsiders come to get the bad boys from the district, you always hearing them saying “the fellows out here don’t trouble nobody.
The police have to protect themselves. A dead police is one police less. A dead criminal is one criminal less and less work for the police an comfort for the nation.
No feeling and no sympathy for him and I hope thee police get thee other one.These young people were allowed to do as they like from early no Guidance no Governance no control and think that they can terrorise thee place and people have to live in fear. who thee hell them think them is
I pray for the youths. Hope that this never ever happen again. Barbados please pray for brighter days. I do not jump to conclusions. All i am saying is that we need to get guns off the streets and the police need to get to the real suppliers asap. Lawlessness must have no weight in this society and we do not need our youths dying is circumstances of that sort and we also do not want rivalry between the law enforcement officials and our communities. I hope and pray this never ever happen again
I wonder if a police was shot last night if the out cry would be the same I wonder if we would be hearing all these negative comments
There is not even any proof that the the boy was carrying a gun.
It is amazing how BLACK people on this thread are salivating over the killing of this Black boy.
the police have my full support.zero tolerance on crime.18 yrs old and with a gun. what happen to skill training or going to bbc or the old level. who ever give him or sold that gun is responsibly for this outcome so do blame the police. but this tell me something there alot of guns in barbados. if he got two certificates back from attending school he got alot. and just just got to listen to the woman from the area talking and you can tell she all for the young thugs. that the police did not had to do he so. well if the little boy with the gun did shoot she in she ass she would be singing a different tune. some of we bajans get brainwash by the jamaican music for so long now that them acting and feel them is jamaicans. want to kill and carry on like them right. well not bout here. one must also ask ourselves why the white people and the indians kids not doing this madness. only our black youth in this country something got to be seriously wrong the way we are raising our children.
Parents talk to wanna children…mainly the boys…this getting worse before it get better….some of wanna dont want to pray so let me hear what plans wanna have to end this …
18 years old – he’d barely started his life.
Isnt a teenager charged with three murders? Something is wrong with our young people and many of us are wearing blinkers. It is a societal problem which is being fed by bad company and lack of positive role models.
What I don’t understand ,why the persons as politicians who look’s after the security of our country , isn’t saying anything to the bajan public………….
The message is loud and clear, keep off the blocks, dogs mix with dogs
Our young people need help, when are we going to start looking at putting systems in place for first understanding this gang and block culture which has taken over Barbados and then to eliminate the root causes. The first root cause to be fixed is the education system.
I am sorry that this young man has lost his life but lets face it, these young people today are just looking for trouble every single day.What 18 year old has any right with a gun and so stupid to shoot at the police he obviously did not care too live.The first thing people can say he was a good boy never trouble nobody,give me a dam break.These young people are living in broken homes sometimes not a parent to help guide them,bad company,half of them can’t find a job or just don’t want one.This situation will only get worse as it seems you can just get a gun at a whim so,if there is ever a time that we need GOD is all like yesterday,LORD help Barbados.
Three sides t every story i don’t swallow everything people tell me cause de dead man cant tell his side of the story
Every say he is not a trouble maker…what was he doing with a gun?????
@ Thomas Dudley
People know you are a punk, when you shoot at the police, that’s how. Thank God the police in this case shot straight at the target. He took a chance and he lost.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38mE6ba3qj8
No need for a trial date for this punk.
All of them should fall prey, no excuses for them. It’s the path the chose.
We as bajan are very judgemental in cases like this many of you would say the police wrong…place the shoe on the other foot..what would be the outcome..
Well done it is time to show these miscreants that confronting the police will be met with serious resistance.Way to go Brows!
This black boy Carson, was sporting with a gun as is happening in today’s society, not a toothpick. He maybe was planning to kill his own brothers, black like himself. There is no excuse. We cannot agree on this one Carson. Sorry.
I don’t know the series of events, however, what appears clear is that at 18 he had a gun and probably no job, therefore their is a district possibility that he could that he could have robbed and possibly killed someone with that same gun.
Bajans cannot have it both ways, they can’t complain about the guns and murders and then talk jobby when someone shooting at the police meets their end.
One thing about bajan police that I believe to be true, they might put some hand in yah, but shooting is really not their style, so for me the only truth that I considering is that an 18 year old was running around with a gun and was killed before he could kill.
Place getting like the wild wild west, teens involved in shoot outs and on murder charges instead of sporting activities and continued educational or skills training programs. Not good at all.
Hmmm they are blaming the police. Why not blame the person or persons who called them.
Those police wear a uniform ,the uniform does not make them immune or give them a super power so as to enable them to avoid bullets. Those men and women are someone’s son or daughter husband or wife mother or father.
What if one of them had died in that altercation???
We call the police to intercede in volatile situations then when something happens that we dont like the blame game begins.
Just suppose the police hadn’t responded to the call .. you would hearing when you call the police they dont come.
I have relatives and friends who are police and I would hate to hear that they lost their life on account of some silly young person armed with gun who thinks that life is movie.
By the way,kudos to the individual who was brave enough to call the Police.
Good job RBPF.
Keep up the good work in ridding the streets of these miscreants.
Shooting at the Police is the last straw. Not in Barbados. No, no, no.
Respect the Police, respect authority and you will be ok.
Why is it that a victim is always a good person whenever they are involved with the police and always want to lay blame on the police for doing their job? Why is it that the same public is the first to call the same police when they are in trouble with the same people that they say are so good? The police have a job to do to p[rotect the society and the public should give them all the support when they are carrying out their duty. For heaven sake, it is an unthankful job and deserves the public support.
Some of these IGRUNT people telling themselves that the POLICE should NEVER have SHOT BACK at who SHOOTING at them…. lord have mercy…and of course the people who know him are out in force saying that he DIN USED TO TROUBLE ANYBODY …but din know he had a GUN..yea right… GOOD BOYS AT HOME of course…sorry the POLICE din CRIPPLE he A$$..a REMINDER till he A$$ DEAD.
The youth has no ambition but to have a gun in their hands and they can’t even use it properly most of them leaving school without certificate but will not go learn a trade to help them in life a gun can’t help them parents need to take some of them to the grave yard and ask them where they want to be buried because that is where they are headed sorry to say i am sorry for their families hope I am never in this situation I have nephews.
Well he was 18 yrs he should have been looking for a job or in some job program polytechnic, etc instead you want to role with the big boys peer pressure is a hell of a time
The parents have the children so…and blaming every one except them selves…and their children walking bout with guns and have people even scare to leave home to go to work…good job police
Simple gine reserved judgement on this until further knowledge is gain but if what is publish is correct and they were fired upon then police have the right to defend themselves and public at large.
Johnny Crow
We only have the police side of the story. They are covering their backside as police usually do.
I bet that if you check both of this boy’s hands for gunshot residue, you will find none.
Police got a job to do, too much weary youngsters bout the place. Live by it you die by it.
When these youngsters kill someone…they were good boys..when the police kill them they are also a good boy…if u don’t have nothing to do..no job etc stay in your parents home/ mother house…when u look it is always women saying these things…the fathers don’t ever sanction a word or if they do then u hear the truth…people just be careful some of u need to investigate your good sons…u might get a heart attack
Sorry Carson. No excuse for this. The police did not call themselves, the person or the people did. I hope that in these encounters, the police always are the winners. We all have choices. Granny always warned me to keep away from bad company, that is why I stay far from Harry and Carl.
They also smell bad.
I will bet all the tea in China that if this had been two WHITE BOYS or two INDIAN BOYS boys running when they saw the security forces NONE OF THEM WOULD HAVE BEEN SHOT!!!!
But who cares, they were only two BLACK BARBADIAN BOYS so the security forces reckoned that no one in the BLACK Community would care if they killed them.
The comments on this thread PROVES THEM TO BE QUITE CORRECT IN THEIR THINKING.
WE BLACK PEOPLE HAVE SUCH A HATRED OF OUR OWN RACE it isnt funny!!!!!
The other races in Barbados consider us as nothing but jokes.
The police public relations officer supposed to make the police look legit….he did a poor job yesterday & deserve to get take down (not saying the police right but obviously after his explanation the public suspicious)
CCC, I’m with you, in part, on this. On one hand it has only just happened and still needs to be investigated but, at the same time whatever investigation there is, the conclusion will be the same as this is standard practice world over.
i cant see how anyone could fault the police for defending themselves. This is not the first time they came under fire when doing their job either. For all those want to be Capones out there should you get the same treatment, you would have only yourself to blame. When it does happen though someone will still come out and say ” he was a good boy who never do nobody nothing, he had he ways but he was a good boy.”
Britton Hill was always a hot place, for many years, from as far back as i can remember, in the early 80s i know it was no place to be caught in , and it still isa hot place, When ever some thing like this happen you always hear oh he wasnt a bad boy, there is only one time i saw on the news when a mother said i know my son was a bad boy and i accept what happen to him, @ROMEO HINKSON, if it was a police i csn bet you that every block would be having a party, cause you know very well the youth dont like police and you can just imagine the comment, @CARSON CADOGAN, How can you say there is no proof of a gun, so where did the gun come from, as i said to you before in german,, was fur eine dumme fotze bist du,,
@CARSON CADOGAN if you dont know german ask some one who do what it mean ( was fur eine dumme fotze bist du )
@CARSON C. CADOGAN, you are making yourself look like a foolish person. “if this had been two WHITE BOYS or two INDIAN BOYS boys” Utter nonsense. The fist thing, none of the above mention do not think or do things like our stupid black boy do. They do not put themselves on show or think that they are generals because they have a GUN. Our young black boys are not putting themselves in a position to achieve anything valuable, all they are doing is sitting on the blocks with the bad boys and want handouts and then want to blame society the system for their failures.
Hmmm…seem like only good boys getting kill these days . ..
But somebody call popo to report two youth with guns and now them have no identity of other person. ..
I wonder if reports let popo get chance to get details or them just want report something to public .
@CARSON C CADOGAN – nonsense from you. pure nonsense coming from you.
Do you see white people and people of Indian descent in Barbados shooting at the Police?
In Trinidad people of Indian descent who shoot at the Police are shot by the Police.
I cannot recall any instances in the Caribbean where white people shot at the Police.
What happened to you CCC, the 30-0 drubbing is having such an adverse effect on your brain that you are now exhibiting the traits through your writings as an imbecile.
At 18 what was I doing am going Septembers, After Dark,Warehouse, Carparkjams, Bike riding, Joyriding on minibusses and looking for the next rusty skillet to knock but these days 18 year old doing drugs and guns chopping and killing man has Barbados changed!
It is not a good feeling that so much young men r being encouraged into “Block life” by grown men and r the head ones losing their lives, if he wasn’t outside he would still be alive..
In my book if he was a good person, he would never be involved with anything illegal but “good” is relative, everybody have different standards….my 2 cents
no comment here to observe the comments
That’s why there will always be guns and robbery because some adults in these small neighborhoods cover up for the bad deeds of some of these young men.thee young men get away with robberies and selling drugs but so.e neighbors are enablers. You hear some of them say. My son ent no sai t, but he would never do this or that, that’s enabling behavior. If your child is wrong face up and tell the truth,because one day the chickens will come home to roast. before he or her life get cut off.
Was this young man known to the Police?. Just asking.
Continue to cleanup the place RBPF! Good work!
It’s time a strong message be sent to all bad boys… Desist or be deceased!
There is a multiplicity of things happening here but when it all boils down delinquent parenting is the root cause, poor parenting means lack of genuine love, lack of consistent good instruction, lack of christian values lack of good parental examples, Mothers and Fathers need to stop whatever they are doing aND retool themselves for the sake of their children unless they don’t CARE.
MY HEART HURTS I JUST ATTENDED A YOUNG MANS FUNERAL WHO WAS STABBED BY SOMEONE IN THE BRITTONS HILL AREA NOW THIS IF THE PARENTS DON’T DO THEIR JOB THEN PREPARE TO BURY YOUR SONS. My condolences to the family of this young man seek Christ in your time of bereavement he alone can bring the comfort that you need
Proper shot
On target
Congratulations to the police force a job well done.
Fight fire with Fire.
It is very sad that this youngster was killed for him & his family it is a true tradgedy,but this is the society that is becoming the norm in Barbados & it unfortunately a lesson to any one of any age for them to not shoot at the police because they are going to return fire in self defence & they will more likely be on target.
Keep the good work up RBPF….
There should be zero tolerance & fleaxbility with these illegal actions let the criminals feel the full weight of the law.Live by the gun die by the gun.
yes Lester we all must confess preparation of the positive outcome of our progeny must first begin in the home, we need to be accountable & stop blaming external forces
the spiritual element is what is clearly lacking in the growth of these young lives
my sympathy is also extended to those he have left behind
be bless in Christ’s love
Now we are talking . If you are so stupid to exchange gun fire with the Police then the only place for you is that cold slab in the morgue.
“Do you see white people and people of Indian descent in Barbados shooting at the Police?”
They dont have to, they are the ones selling and renting the guns to the Black people.
Please up grade the Police firearms so that the can continue to hit what they aim at. We must clean the streets of Bim of all such trash.
THE GAURDIANS : ” one must also ask ourselves why the white people and the indians kids not doing this madness. only our black youth in this country something got to be seriously wrong the way we are raising our children”
DONILD TRIMP: Do you see white people and people of Indian descent in Barbados shooting at the Police?
Ossie Moore : During the past months Ossie Moore has been ridiculed , cursed at , called an a** hole , a RH and even the local bajan street name for a female sanitary napkin , this is in relation to when Ossie was pointing out the very same facts that most of you are pointing out right now ! ! !
Crime in buhbados – Barbados – BIM – The GEM of the Caribbean – Land of the sea and sun – Little England – The most peaceful country in the world ( EBONY magazine 1975 ) is a ” black issue “.
But now it seems that everything that everyone said bad about Ossie is now coming back to bite them in the a**.
So here goes Ossie again repeating himself :
How come the white bajans , Indian , Asian , Jewish , muslim and other races on non-black bajans are not killing ,robbing and shooting their own race just like the black bajans are doing to their race ?
And how come the Barbados Police do not have to shoot and kill white bajans , Indian , Asian , Jewish , muslim and other races on non-black bajans ?
. . . . but listen to this and this is food for thought bajans ! The white ,Indian , Asian , Jewish , Muslim and other non-black bajan races have guns , knives and cutlasses also.
@CCC, Why are Black people buying and renting Guns from Whites & Indians. If they are being on killing each other why not use a Rope, Rock or even a Big Stick.
Barbados Today : “One lady, who did not want to be identified, said she was especially taken aback by the news as the young man was not known to be a troublemaker.
“I am really shocked and hurt, they didn’t have to do him so”.
Ossie Moore : This lady’s sound byte has got me totally puzzled folks because it seems as thought this kid was a very nice , respectable young man who loved sports and never bothered any of the residents in the community.
Is Ossie missing something here ?
“Police said they came under attack from the suspects and returned fire…” were the suspects running away and shooting or police got excited and shot him? This, is what I would like to know.
All you who are speaking and pushing out a lot of hot air against the Police who are here to protect and serve , if anything goes down with the same lot of you , I wonder who you all gonna call.
There is nothing but despondency among YOUNG BLACK BARBADIANS.
Even the govt had to concede that among young Black school leavers here in Barbados there is a rate of 70% of them cant find jobs. The devil finds work for idle hands.
That is not true among WHITE BAJANS AND INDIANS in Barbados.
The unemployment rate among WHITES and INDIANS in Barbados is 0%.
So am I to take that BLACK BARBADIANS are all for killing of as many YOUNG BLACK BARBADIANS as possible???
Now no one aint coming out and saying anything much on this issue, no whats app messages nothing, i was made to understand that the community is saying if a call was made then it would have to be a certain household, i hope no one from with in get hurt as a result, but if it is true then you need more ppl like them, it is said that he wasnt all the bad but was know to cause some trouble, and the guardians fail to really address him, again, as i said before its the parenting, mothers are the ones the kids spend most time with, i will see what else i can gather
People will find out who made the call, nothing stays secret in Barbados for very long.
The police shoot a man and his son in Bank Hall and killed the father. The son was injured from police gun shot wounds
The father and son were chasing down a homosexual man who stole their property in order to retrieve their property.
The whole thing has been white washed. Now we have only the police side of this incident.
Let that sink in!!!!!
@CCC, please stop trying to school Willie Lynch’s progenies.
WHITEHILL
Maybe I should take your advice.
yes the police job is to protect society , i dont think that include vigilante justice
or does it?
I was just one a three way call, a friend of mine let me talk to a lady from Britton Hill, She told me that britton Hill is a bad place to be and she would love to move out, she say over by vallarie pasture is a hole for selling and smoking drugs and gun does be out there she say some times she does past there and she does see, guy with guns in waist, she said its best to see and dont see, she say she recall a woman who live next to the vallarie pasture got her house burn down years ago, cause them say she talk too much, she say all she gine really say on that shooting is that parents got to learn to raise them children right and control them, and stop letting them (the children) rule the parents, and that he wasnt no saint like them ppl trying to say or act surprise when them hear it was he, CADOGAN i agree yes ppl will know who made the call, and i hope its will be ok, with out any further trouble, and barbados still got to brace for the after shock of the baxters road killing of the guy in the jeep from shop hill, YABA, dont think it dont there, only way it done there is lord evil really didnt care bout him, they aint family so it might just die a natural death, unlike him,
@STICKS AND STONES, I AGREE WITH YOU THE POLICE SHOULD STAND UP AND LET THESE CRIMINALS KILL THEM,,, (DU MUSCHI )
This people is currently dealing with many issues, chiefly of a spiritual nature.
We need to be careful we r not dealing with a charles bronson or copy cat USA kkk policing. Black people r like sheep, they like to copy. Get all the FACTS.
@CCC- spot on, in many ways. There is absolutely no need for white and indians to shoot at the police as they are the ones in the drivers seat, aided by our governments locally and regionally. Now turn the tables, and disenfranchise them and u will see the real hunters come out of their cocoon. Remember black people r generally peaceful, so the real cause need to be found.
Saying all this – parents and children alike need real education on love of self and own. There is a current state of compensation by this people by acquiring a gun as a power/status symbol. Remember if this people now “have power” which they never had, they will tend to abuse it including both civilian and police.
“I am really shocked and hurt, they didn’t have to do him so.” Lady, he was shooting at the police.Would you have called on him for protection from the other hoodlums or would you call the police? He was up to no good.You saw him play football,but you didn’t know what he did when not playing.Those area residents who confronted the police are part of the wider problem. They are the ones who would aid and abet the criminal element.
The education, church and justice systems has all FAILED black people big time and will continue to do so unless those social systems r corrected or torn down.
We need to stop black people from thinking white – period.
Carson Cadogan, you have sorely disappointed me. You speak of GSR a person can point a gun at or in the direction of the police and they will have to respond in kind, they will have to defend themselves and their colleagues, by the way, if the assailant was even armed with a mock gun they would be justified in shooting him as they would obviously be in fear for their lives and safety. Now in respect of testing for GSR as you stated, suppose it was a case of him pointing his weapon at the police and was shot before he was able to discharge his weapon, how would GSR be found on his hands? When these miscreants kill each other there isn’t much hullabaloo, but when they confront the police and are dealt with appropriately all and sundry become crime scene sleuths, leave the investigations to those who are trained to do so and I speak with authority on these matters. These young men are lawless and more than often they engage in reckless conduct which places others in danger of death or serious bodily harm and the police are within their right to first preserve their own lives and that of their colleagues and the general public. I have said before and I will say it again the only thing that stops evil men are other well-trained men who are skilled at dealing with violence.
ROGER PARISH
@CARSON CADOGAN if you dont know german ask some one who do what it mean ( was fur eine dumme fotze bist du )
I’ll second that . And a first class one at that.
Guns and drugs cannot enter this place without intervention/support from the said so called upholders of the law. And, until this is aspect of the society is dealt with more of our young men, women, and children will suffer and ultimately build more criminals.
Now we are beginning to understand why a man who has brutally murdered six young women,believes that his sentence is severe, as he along with other criminals and murderers,many of whom are out on bail, appear to have the backing of a great number of people in this community.
@Carson C Cadogan: Are you posting appalling comments just as a troll?
“People will find out who made the call, nothing stays secret in Barbados for very long.”
Are you advocating that the person who called the police should be the subject of vigilante justice when and if found out?
@BELFAST thank you, he really acting so, @JENNIFER, YOU HERE TALKING A LOT OF FOTZE, makes me wonder if you are one too,some bajan blacks dont want to work and want to just life free, getting money how they can, so you are right they duplicate what they seen on the screen, and think it works in real life, shooting at police and at other ppl, killing robbing, you JENNIFER acting like this is take two from sceen 6, as tho you can take back a shot from a gun and just redo the whole sceen,